#Nokia 9 (TA-1012) with 6GB RAM passed #FCC; 4GB version cancelled???

A Nokia-branded smartphone with the TA-1012 model number yesterday passed the FCC certification, or at least the model appeared in the database. FCC documentations reveal that HMD requested to transfer all test results and permits from the TA-1004 model to TA-1012, explaining that they plan to market the certified TA-1004 as TA-1012, but with no changes that affect the test results.

NPU recently published an info that HMD Global cancelled the 4GB RAM version of the upcoming Nokia flagship in favor of the versions with more RAM, and for a flagship, I agree with that. NPU said: “as we have been telling you via our sources that Nokia 9 will pack minimum 6GB RAM.”

As with the TA-1004, the TA-1004 model of Nokia 9 also visited Geekbench a few times revealing Android 7.1.1, Snapdragon 835 and 6GB RAM. Apart from 6GB RAM, we also stumbled upon a 8GB RAM version as well.

Alleged Nokia 9

Other rumored specifications of the Nokia 9, or however HMD will call it, include a 5.3-inch screen with 2K resolution, Dual-lens camera on the back with 2x13MP sensors and 64GB of internal memory, but all of this applies for the 4GB RAM version. If you are skeptical because of the relatively small screen size, I would like to point to you a Digitimes report from December that said that HMD ordered 5.3 and 5.7-inch 2K panels, and that report accurately got the specifications of the Nokia 6 and 5 announced almost 3 months later.

A phone passing different certification agencies and appearing multiple times on banchmarks suggest that the announcement and launch of that phone should happen in the near future. When? We will have to wait and see.

Source: FCC

  • Jukka-Pekka Sokero

    My guess would be that Nokia 9 will be revealed at the same time as new Nokia Withings announcements

    • My best guess also. The device is ready, and so is Withings to be rebranded to Nokia

      • I doubt it πŸ™‚

      • EricLovesSymbian

        EricLovesSymbian says:

        After the Google pixel 2, perhaps Nokia should be the first phone to have Android O.

        This may be around September or October. Which will be about the same time that the iPhone 8 (iPhone X) and the note 8 will be coming out.

        Meaning, it’s right before the holiday season.

        Nokia best be wise with its design though. The trend is things that look similar to the S8, G6, mi 6, iPhone 8, etc…

        In 2017, people, bloggers, reviewers, are all clamouring over the newest phone with the smallest bezels. They give praise for these things. Integration with your TV, watch, tablet and laptop are also vital.

        Screen real estate is crucial to success. I’m guessing that they can put a thin film of shatterproof transparent polycarbonate under or over the screen glass to make it far more resilient.

        Come on Nokia, wow us thirsty fans!!! We’re all excited!

        • Nokia flagship will already be on sale by October IMO:)

        • I think that next month is perfect to come out with Nokia 9. But, if HMD and Nokia want to success, stocks need to be ready to leave the warehouses in a week or two.
          I think that pushing low end devices is right strategy to settle the production line, supply chain and just be ready to go with flagship device. Nokia 9 can’t be stopped because of faulty radio equipment or some mistake in the manufacturing process.

          • EricLovesSymbian

            EricLovesSymbian says:

            EXACTLY!!!!!

            You are 100% correct!
            Quality assurance is very important and detrimental to success.
            They need to hurry up! I completely agree with you…

          • Yes! You are correct πŸ™‚ But they haven’t even produced Nokia 5’s and Nokia 6’s for the Indian Market. Hence, a one month delay in availability. So how can we be sure that the Nokia 9’s are ready? IMO they will announce the phone in August. Till then all the demand of Nokia 3, 5 & 6 will come down so they will be able to manufacture flagship πŸ™‚

  • EricLovesSymbian

    EricLovesSymbian says:

    My thoughts are as follows…

    This is a flagship. Being a Nokia that has history and once the king of the entire Mobile kingdom.

    My fear is the same as it was several months ago. The public image, the public eye, and the way people will see Nokia. After making their last real phone in 2012, the awesome spectacular phenomenal Nokia 808, they better wow the world with an extraordinary device!

    It’s been 5 years since Nokia made a phone.

    But…
    By the time they come here, the phones may be outdated. I hope I’m mistaken, but I have a feeling that the Nokia 9 will have a mediocre battery (not 4000 mAh), a mediocre screen (not AMOLED), and mediocre Bluetooth (not 5.0)

    I don’t want people, bloggers, reviewers, YouTube videos to constantly say,

    ” They dropped the ball again! ”

    I want something premium and flashy and memorable!

    β€’6GB of RAM? That’s wonderful, but have exceptional battery life to compensate.
    β€’Snapdragon 835? Hurry up and use it, because the note 8 is rumored to use the 836, and LG already has first dibs on the 845.
    β€’Pure Android? Make sure it doesn’t lag after 6 months of use, and make sure it doesn’t lag after 18 months of use. Use Nokia optimizations and make sure the cache (that eventually has 1.1GB of stuff accumulated after 18 months of usage, doesn’t slow performance)
    β€’Design ethos? Make it premium, but also, change the awful simplistic housing for the camera. Give it flair, add a black border, give it extra polycarbonate surroundings, I don’t know.
    β€’Features? Give it features built in, not needed to be downloaded! Nokia pure font, themes, Nokia optimizations, Nokia sleeping screen, AMOLED like like on the 2010 Nokia N8 (from seven years ago), throw away all LCD everything, as Samsungis AMOLED, LG just invested in new age AMOLED for their new phones, and apple is looking into microOLED.
    β€’Chassis? Make a 6.0 inch screen fit in the chassis of the Nokia 6. Make a 5.5 inch screen fit in a frame like the S8 or G6 (about 146 mm x 69 mm x 7 mm) Β± 2mm

    I want the world to be impressed, shocked and amazed by the Nokia flagship!

    Flagship!

    • With Snapdragon 835 Bluetooth 5.0 comes as default. πŸ™‚

      • EricLovesSymbian

        EricLovesSymbian says:

        I think it’s stuck on Bluetooth 4.2

        But I’m not sure

        • Take a look here: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/835 Under Blutooth only 5.0 is mentioned. πŸ™‚

          • EricLovesSymbian

            EricLovesSymbian says:

            Awesome thanks!

            You’re right, I just saw it.
            But I honestly could have sworn that I saw something on Geekbench or some leaked image that showed Bluetooth 4.2

            I don’t know. I suppose I was mistaken.

            By the way, I love how involved everyone is on this site! I love the activity and how much interest everyone is showing!

            Very nice!

          • No problem and thanks for the nice words πŸ™‚

    • At the time of writing this comment i have paused reading at ” They dropped the ball again! ”
      That was such a great time when phones didn’t get outdated so early. πŸ™
      My 1st phone was a Nokia X2-00 and that ran on Series 40. I never owned a symbian smartphone. But, still my phone was way ahead of those android phones at that time. 1 year later my friends started buying android phones from LG and Samsung (Optimus and Galaxy Fit) and whatsapp was a completely new way of messaging friends. When they installed whatsapp i was like what is this? At that time i just used to surf websites like MNB and phonearena on my feature phone and that was the whole internet for me. One day when they were showing me what whatsapp does i headed straight to ovi store and searched for WhatsApp. And then i found that, even my phone supports whatsapp. Many similar useful android apps used to be available on Ovi Store. All phones were useful unlike today where you need a big OS that can run and app/game and others just have to watch. πŸ™
      I don’t like AMOLED screens. They are way to bright IMO. I prefer LCD’s. I don’t think 4000mAh in a flagship would fit nice. πŸ˜› Nokia Lumia 1320/1520 had 3400mAh and that is enough for a day’s use.

      • Rocky

        Well, we have similiar story πŸ˜€ . Even my first touch phone is Nokia Asha 311 (my first phone is Nokia 3120 classic, i’m using it just like your Nokia X2-00) when Galaxy Pocket with android has same price (don’t know why I really like Nokia). It can WhatsApp and LINE just like Android (but not like full experience in Android) πŸ˜€

        • At that time Whatsapp for Android and S40 was almost similar πŸ™‚

      • EricLovesSymbian

        EricLovesSymbian says:

        Sorry if I was sounding a bit aggressive.

        The new AMOLED screen technology allows them to become extremely dim, far better than any LCD.
        3400 mAh battery on Symbian or garbage junk horrible Windows phone could potentially last for days, but, on Android, it won’t. The OS is not optimized. Hopefully Android 8.0 will address several of these issues.
        I’ll be happy with anything more than 3300 mAh, would prefer 3600, but 3800-4000 mAh would be a true gift to all Nokia fans than want to buy a flagship.

        Also, LED lighting is far more efficient.
        Almost all modern day flagship cars use it on everything, from interior lighting to headlights and taillights, etc.

        And, when you can, please read the rest of the post.

        I think I was more gentle…

        Again, thanks for referringme to this site, it’s awesome!

        • I read the post soon after commenting πŸ™‚ I will never miss to read your posts LOL

    • Rocky

      AMOLED also has disadvantage such as shadow. It’s okay to have LCD but at least they bring Nokia Glance screen and ClearBlack (not just sunlight readabilty, but also deep black color) just like they do with Lumia that using LCD. And for customization, I really agree that they are need to bring some customization like pure font and icon.

      • Nokia 6 has a really black LCD display. Clear Black it is, but HMD can’t call it that way so they say it’s just polarized. I agree, and think that just a Nokia font and icon pack would be enough. They can develop some exclusive apps, too, but without pre-installing. Publish them on GPlay and who wants can download πŸ™‚

        • yes! I would install Squircles πŸ™‚

          • EricLovesSymbian

            EricLovesSymbian says:

            OMG! Me too!

            I’d love a custom Nokia made icon pack

        • Rocky

          Really? Thank you for your information :D, because from their official statement they just say that polarized screen make the screen easy even in sunlight, but they don’t mention the black level. I think they really need to more mention about their spec, for example not many know that even Nokia 3 has NFC (amazing for that price point) πŸ˜€

          • But they can’t use “ClearBlack” name now. CBD also enhanced the sunlight readability.

          • Rocky

            Yeah, i know that, CBD, PureView, Asha and Lumia branding are part of Microsoft now. But at least they can more “selling” it (polarized screen, complete sensors, and some IP rating that they even not mention) more so people don’t think that Nokia 3,5,6 are overpriced.

          • Jep, it says polarized and we compared it to other clear black lumias and concluded that that’s Clear Black. Marin did an interesting article about the way the screen was made back in January. It’s a hibryd in-cell display that’s​ usually used on higher end phones http://nokiamob.net/2017/01/09/nokia-6-has-hybrid-in-cell-screen-technology-a-touch-of-a-high-class/

      • EricLovesSymbian

        EricLovesSymbian says:

        I may be wrong, so please forgive me if my facts can be dismissed.

        But it is rare (nearly impossible) that people have their phones on for 6-8-18 hours a day, nonstop, with those screens being on continuously the entire time.
        The Nokia N8 is over 7 years old, no complaints about shadowing.
        The 808 is 5 years old, and it has one of the best contrast ratios and sun light legibility than any other phone ever created, even as of today, June 2017…
        All high end TV s worldwide use LED technology. Plasma is pretty much dead, and back lit LED LCD TVs are cheap
        Apple will invest in and utilize micro LED very soon, with the iPhone X being their first product.
        LG is giving up on LCD and going towards OLED

        Include great battery life in AMOLED vs LCD also.
        If black pixels aren’t turned on, then battery is not used. (Try downloading any ” always on ” app and see your phone in pitch black darkness. Your screen will be on, killing battery life, UpTo 50-70% from 10 pm – 6 am)

        AMOLED is the future.

        And by the way, the new S8 can dim it’s screen far better than any LCD can.

        (Disclaimer: I’m sorry if I sound aggressive or irritable. When it comes to defending certain things, I become very passionate)

        • Rocky

          Don’t worry, it’s a good explanation :D.

          At N8 and 808 era, users behavior are different. Now people stares at their screen (with many apps) more long. Samsung products are good example for it, in my country, there are many Samsung flagship from other country imported with shadow problem, and sell it for cheap. And that’s not just flagship, J series and A series also facing this. πŸ˜€
          Also for battery, the AMOLED pixels will turn off if it showing black, and we don’t buy smartphone with AMOLED display (that famous for it’s vivid color) just to show black color (like wallpaper) to save battery right? :D. So battery of AMOLED vs LCD doesn’t really different (for same average usage) πŸ˜€

          • I am wondering what if Nokia used AMOLED screens in Lumia series. πŸ™‚ The battery life is already the best in WP and due to the dark theme of WP it would have been much better. I can’t make android UI to complete black like WP πŸ™

        • “When it comes to defending certain things, I become very passionate”
          haha πŸ˜›

          • EricLovesSymbian

            EricLovesSymbian says:

            Lol

            It’s true! I love Nokia and I become very passionate.

        • “sun light legibility than any other phone ever created, even as of today, June 2017”
          Seriously? I think Nokia 701 will beat it with its 1000 nits of brightness. πŸ™‚ BTW only Nokia can beat itself πŸ™‚

          • EricLovesSymbian

            EricLovesSymbian says:

            Maybe you’re right, I don’t know.
            But on GSMArena, the part at the bottom of the specs, shows contrast ratio in direct sunlight at about 4.7:1 , which was extremely high, and untouched by any other phone.

            Either way, the 808 in direct sunlight, on its dimmest setting, it was (and still is) far more legible than the majority of all phones currently on the market.

            But LED is where upper end, flagships, phones and TV’s and cars are going towards (if not already there).

    • Viccky maurya

      I m really waiting for this type of flagship… But i dont think it would become true bcoz Hmd is still a startup and hasnot many great engineers , R & D dept. Like old Nokia.

  • Abhimanyu Chauhan

    admin please tell me about zeiss on nokia 9?will it happen

    • Don’t know. For a long time no one has mentioned ZEISS. I think ZEISS will go with HMD if not this year, maybe next.

  • Abhimanyu Chauhan

    do nokia still owns technology behind pureview or not

    • Rocky

      Yes

    • Yes, they do.

      • Seriously? I thought it went to microsoft. Actually there is a lot of confusion regarding this one. πŸ˜› IMO Nokia and HMD should speak about these things and clear the doubts. πŸ™‚

        • Microsoft bought a 10-year license and trademarks. There were even rumors back in 2014 that Nokia will license the camera tech to Xiaomi, Meizu etc. A high ranking employee in the patent division cleared that to us, and said that not one technology related patent was sold. Just design patents and trademarks

          • Rocky

            I really hate to hear Meizu, they just make rumors using Nokia news. πŸ˜€

          • Glad they are no where to be found in Europe πŸ˜€

          • LOL hahaha

        • Rocky

          There aren’t any technology that sold to Microsoft, just branding

      • Viccky maurya

        Yes, they do!!! But why dont they use it…? :-/

        • They don’t have the right to use that branding now. Its the technology that they own.

          • Viccky maurya

            You got me wrong… I know they own technology and was asking about same that why dont they use those technologies with other trademarks…

          • Hemedans

            -There are rumors of ozo audio (probably it is same as HAAC mic)
            -polarizing filter is same as clear black display.

            They will use them, just wait for flagship release.

        • To implement camera solutions you need time and manpower, and HMD lacks both. If you remember the WP8 days, Nokia with a whole team of camera engineers managed to ship new camera firmware every 3 months for 5-6 device. Considering HMD’s size and financials, they need time. It’s also a matter of priorities. With lower end phones the want the design and build quality to be top notch, with higher end they will work on the camera and other stuff, too. PureView tech is owned by Nokia and licensed to no one, so it’s logical that HMD will eventually use it πŸ™‚

          • Viccky maurya

            Missing old Nokia days :-/

          • EricLovesSymbian

            EricLovesSymbian says:

            My beloved Symbian!!!!

            Now all these phones look the same (screen on the front, a camera, LED flash, finger print sensor), and are marketed to a bunch of brain dead masses that think apps and games are the way to succeed and better oneself!

            Unsecure Android that sends info to servers, cameras and mics that can see and listen without our consent (sending info to NSA, etc), billions of human life and time wasted on stupid games while people in power pass laws that will eventually effect us in one way or another.

            But! People say they have a new game! They caught all Pokemon! They can put a filter on and make themselves look like an onion! They can live stream and follow some pathetic vain self absorbed celebrity! Etc!

            The US did what it wanted! All three operating systems in use currently are developed and made in the US! Android, Apple, (and dare I say, that junk pathetic rancid horrid disgusting) Windows Mobile. I bet in about 10-15 we’ll see or hear of a leak that somehow, billions of photos were taken without our consent and sent to servers. Billions of hours of voices were recorded with out our knowledge, etc

            So let’s keep saying how limiting, the safe secure wonderful incredible phenomenal Symbian operating system was…

            All these waste of time games and apps and people following celebrity nonsense, etc…

            Time is passing! Make money, become successful!

            I also miss Nokia from 2004-2011.5 a lot!

          • 2011.5 haha. Aren’t you from USA?

          • EricLovesSymbian

            EricLovesSymbian says:

            Yeah… I live in Los Angeles California.

            It is currently, 102Β° F…

            I love Nokia because they are an honest company. Both ethical and they have morals…
            Many American companies only understand capitalism and corporate greed! Mostly from unsuspecting people (the overwhelming majority)

            It’s not good form.
            I value Nokia for doing what’s right, not what makes the most money ( short term )

          • Viccky maurya

            Yes, apple and Google are only money making consumer and has no values towards their consumers whereas Nokia is human brand and has huge humanity in it. πŸ™‚

          • Yes! Same reson why i love Nokia. Actually, its the Finnish culture and morals that are so good. I would like you to read this interview of Supercell’s CEO. πŸ™‚
            Here is a small part of his interview which i loved the most: πŸ™‚
            To what extent is Supercell a product of Finland?

            We’re a very Finnish company; I don’t think we could have built this anywhere but Helsinki. There are a few things about Finnish culture that set us apart. We tend to stay very loyal to companies, we’re not always looking for the next shiny object. Money also isn’t that important – it’s a factor, but people don’t pick their jobs on the basis of how much they’re paid. We don’t think about the future in terms of financial success. We believe that success will follow great work, not the other way around.

            Finns also have this attitude that everyone is more or less equal. You see that in our secondary fundraising in 2013, where the terms were the same for investors, employees and owners – everybody sold the same share of their ownership. We’ve applied the same principle to the transactions that followed this, first with Softbank and then with the most recent one with Tencent. That’s Finnish culture in action.

            I don’t know what’s right or wrong for all companies, but for us you can’t hire rapidly. You’re just not going to find a large number of people a month who are a good fit, let alone be able to onboard and integrate them into our culture properly. And by keeping resources scare, it means you can really focus on what’s most important.
            Here is the complete link: http://tech.eu/features/15492/supercell-ilkka-paananen/

          • EricLovesSymbian

            EricLovesSymbian says:

            Wow!

            Thank you…

          • Viccky maurya

            Same here…. I will use Nokia android phones for sure but I have no beleive in Google as it is only money making company and has 0% humanity at all…
            I want Nokia (Real Nokia) to create a new OS (Something like Symbian but with more enhancement & innovations) and give it to hmd by 2019…
            I am nervous bcoz of android monopoly and in fact I even hate the name ‘Android’ most in technology area…. :-/

          • “Nokia making its own OS” This is not going to happen now. It needs a lot of resources. Only Samsung is capable of it at the moment. Nokia should just join hands with Sailfish by next year. And they will do it. πŸ™‚

          • me too πŸ™

          • Just design and build quality isn’t enough these days 😊 They should have added a better camera at least. 😊

          • EricLovesSymbian

            EricLovesSymbian says:

            I agree.
            The world knows that Nokia builds strong, durable, resilient, and high build quality products.

            It’s the other things that set it apart.

            3310 – solid indestructible great price
            N95 – media and camera and built in features
            N8 – design and camera with Nokia optimizations (for great battery life from a tiny battery)
            808 – camera phone king!

            In a market where everything looks similar, they should wow and surprise us!

            Seriously!

          • Yes exactly πŸ™‚ That was a golden era πŸ™‚

  • Abhimanyu Chauhan

    one thing i notice with new nokia devices ,there design is almost similar to lumia designs.so is it true nokia also holds designs right of previous nokia phone?also i read a article about steven elop.is he really a stake holder in hmd or was it a joke

    • Rocky

      Hey Nokiamob, you need to clarify the Elop one. Hahaha πŸ˜€

      Yes, they hold all the patent, except CBD, PureView, Asha, and Lumia branding

      • You know, I tricked @Themightym:disqus night before with the fake document where Elop was mentioned as the owner. hehe πŸ™‚

    • That with Elop was a 1st April joke πŸ™‚ Design patetns are owned by Microsoft, but Nokia never really sold their “core” design team. They transferred them to Nokia Technologies, and Microsoft was angry about that. Now, most of top designers that were at Microsoft are back at HMD. For example, HMD’s Design Head is Raun Forsyth, who worked for 10+ years at Nokia/MS in the Advanced design team. πŸ™‚ New Nokia phones follow the core design principle that Marko Ahtisaari first claimed: “Leave only the essential”.

  • Abhimanyu Chauhan

    what happened to microsoft store originally nokia.according to new deal between nokia-hmd-microsoft.will they be rebranded again to nokia and what about previous nokia care

    • Microsoft re-branded and closed most care centers, if not all of them. HMD announced they will open new Nokia Mobile Care centers. In smaller markets they will have local partners, in bigger like India they said that they will open 300 Nokia Mobile Care locations and a webstore, too πŸ™‚

  • Abhimanyu Chauhan

    wil we ever see atleast one nokia phone with windows

    • That depends on Microsoft. If the markets wants a Windows smartphone, and a lot of people would like to buy one from Nokia, HMD said they won’t rule out that possibility. If you have more questions that are not related to the article could you please ask them in our “Help&Discussions” section πŸ™‚ Because we are spamming a little. πŸ™‚ thanks

    • Well, Nokia is rightfull owner of Alcatel brand which is fully licenced to the TCL. So in a way, if you vuy a Alcatel One Touch you are buying a Nokia phone, he he.

      Really don’t know if or when wil HMD push a Windows based phone. Maybe when Microsoft decides to make a proper mobile OS, or full Windows for smartphone. Maybe never.

      • Rocky

        Juho Sarvikas really proud to say “Nokia with Android become reality” at MWC :D, so maybe no for Windows based phone (but Nokia 2 in 1 device with Windows would be good :D)

        • I don’t think they will go with Windows 10 on mobile as of now.

    • EricLovesSymbian

      EricLovesSymbian says:

      With less than .3% global market share, it is very doubtful.

      What that means is, people have more flip phones (that have no apps and can’t go on the internet), than people that have a Windows phone.
      It means that a dead operating system called Symbian (along with some other Firefox, Linux, etc) phones have the same same, if not more , global market share!

      The world has spoken! Not just America or Europe or Asia or the middle East or _____, but the entire world has universally turned their backs on that horrible rancid pathetic Garbage junk operating system people call Windows phone.

      My 2012 Nokia 808 is light years ahead of …..

      I’m tired of repeating myself.
      Unfortunately, Android is the only option we have at this time…

      ;(

      • BTW I still enjoy using my Lumia 1320. I was about to buy Nokia Lumia 830 but then i thought W10M will look great on a bigger screen. πŸ™ Later i found out that Microsoft was experimenting again πŸ™ If you keep using an android phone continuously for 2 years it won’t be usable. too much lags, freezes and what now.

        • EricLovesSymbian

          EricLovesSymbian says:

          Unfortunately, we have no choice.
          It’s just apple or Android

          It’s actually quite sad

  • EricLovesSymbian

    EricLovesSymbian says:

    What do you think?

    We pretty much know of the internals, 4-6GB, Snapdragon 835, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, standard camera, and so on…

    What can we predict in terms of desire? The Nokia 9 could or should have the following in my humble opinion: (but I am sure I’m forgetting several things)

    Dimensions = about 148Γ—69Γ—8 (Β±2mm) so it could fit in your pocket and cupholder
    Screen = with above chassis, a 5.3 or 5.5, or even, a 5.7 inch screen
    Display = AMOLED with polarizer
    Battery = at least 3300, if not 3600. It would be a true gift to get 3800-4000 mAh battery. Incorporation of quick charge 4.0+ (if possible). Notice, it’s not regular 4.0, it has a plus, so it’s even faster!
    UI = as similar to Symbian BELLE FP2 as possible, with looping screen, some form of Nova launcher like thing preinstalled. The ability to have a white theme, black theme, blue / red / purple (whatever!) theme.
    Camera = higher MP like 20-24-30 and a triple LED flash. (Obviously, they won’t include a xenon flash due to size, complications, drawbacks, cost, etc, even though it’s supremely better). And a front facing flash. (My $65 BLU R1 HD has one!) And the inclusion of a dedicated camera button! Please!

    And a little finesse and innovation from Nokia would be appreciated.

    • That’s a detailed description and I wouldn’t mind if your prediction/wishes come true. I think they will offer a 5.3 and 5.7-inch version. Don’t know and can’t predict how much bezel will the phone have, but I hope for a compact phone. Qualcomm Snapdragon supports Dual Lens camera with up to 16MP sensors or a single lens camera with 32MP sensor. Supported fast charging technology is Quick Charge 4. A lot of features are limited by the processor and if HMD wants to go above Snapdragons limitations (like Nokia did with every high end Lumia) they have to invest more money and hire much more engineers, and that’s at this point not possible (small company, low revenue). Considering this, I believe HMD will stay inside Snapdragon 835’s bounds and use 2x16MP or 2x13MP cameras and Quick Charge 4.0. For the battery, I predict 3300mAh for the 5.3-ich version and 3600mAh for the 5.7-inch version. UI will be the one on stock Android, just like with the 3, 5 & 6. I doubt they will include a camera button, because you can start the camera by double clicking the power button and take a photo with the volume key. It’s not the same as a dedicated 2-stage camera button, but a sufficient workaround for most.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/eacc129caee580f72ae0686e71e81530c6174e9140266e568300e426efa873f2.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b47868c90c024c9e735aead382aa5ddb1c6bf0d72d3170a0cee225bf49d8d6b5.jpg

      • So, this means SD never ever could support that gigantic 41MP sensor? It was Nokia that made modifications? If this is possible then just push a badass 30+30MP Dual Lens camera LOL This year will be same as last 3 years for us. No great Nokia IMO. πŸ™

        • Yes. With the 808 Nokia and Toshiba made a monster Image Sensor Processor, while with the Lumia 1020 Nokia used the Snapdragon S4’s, but put an extra GB of RAM in which the camera software was pre-loaded. So, even though the 1020 came with 2GB RAM, the system and user could just use one, while the other was reserved for the camera. These kinds of workarounds cost and complicate the process, and HMD will do it only if they think it will (financially) be worth it. Maybe with the second or 3rd generation, for the first one I doubt it.
          If a may add, with these phones the most important goals for HMD is Building a healthy logistical network, making retail and telecom partnerships, and showing people when they take a Nokia in their hand that it is really a Nokia. Once the logistics and retail network are done, they can manufature millions units and deliver them in less than a month Worldwide. Then will Money come, and they will invest in modifications, software etc. πŸ™‚

          • EricLovesSymbian

            EricLovesSymbian says:

            I hope someone from Nokia cares to read our concerns and our suggestions.

            You make very valid points that are both rational and economically viable to a business that wants/needs to succeed

          • Abhimanyu Chauhan

            Is it possible on nokia 6,3,5 to add double tap to wake feature via over the air update

          • EricLovesSymbian

            EricLovesSymbian says:

            Of course! Nokia had it years before LG.
            If LG can do it on a $40 phone, then Nokia can easily implement it on all their phones!

            They CHOOSE not to. They can, but aren’t!

          • I am not sure but i think it should be possible to add double tap to wake via an OTA. πŸ™‚ i don’t think it requires a special hardware πŸ™‚

          • Thanks. I hope they do. I’m just trying to make sense what they are doing right now to predict future moves, and maybe constructively suggest what to change or do in the future πŸ™‚ But it’s still early to see the whole picture. I have a fealing that Nokia Technologies will have a greater role in this story.

          • I hope it happens πŸ™‚

          • Viccky maurya

            Waiting for Nokia discussion forum so that we could put our suggestions there for being noted by hmd.

        • Hemedans

          Sd835 support one 32mp camera or dual 16mp camera.

          • I know that SD835 just supports 32MP max. But as stipe said what Nokia did with 808 PureView and Lumia 1020. Same could have been done here is what I meant 😊

    • Dimensions: 10mm and a xenon flash. Anyone who purchases a flagship buys a cover too which increases the thickness lol.
      Screen: 5.5″-5.7″ with AMOLED and CBD
      to be continued…

    • Dimensions: 10mm+ thickness is what i like. Chunky is the best. πŸ™‚ BTW any one who purchases a phone also gets a new cover for the phone and so the phone will become thick. But if the phone is thick, i need a XENON in that device. πŸ™‚

      Screen: 5.5″-5.7″ AMOLED with CBD (or PureBlack Display renamed by @vicckymaurya:disqus which actually sounds nice too)
      Battery: anything above 3500mAh will be fine + Quick charge

      UI: They will stick to stock android UI for at least this year so i don’t expect much here. (Even Moto sticked to stock UI when they re entered the smartphone market)

      Camera: I would like Nokia/HMD to make a custom sensor like on 808 PureView or Lumia 1020 and make it run on SD835. As per present leaks its 13+13MP but this should include PureView tech and as they can’t use PureView branding use “ClearView” as renamed by @Viccky maurya again. ClearView sounds cool too. πŸ™‚ Triple LED Flash combined with a XENON Flash(XENON is my imagination the leaked one doesn’t show any sign of it. But what if they have reduced the size of XENON Flash? Is it impossible?).
      The camera UI similar to Lumia Camera as even many other chinese companies have used it in their smartphones. The camera button is no more πŸ™

      • Viccky maurya

        πŸ™‚ as @stipe1906 has said that HMD is small company and doesnot have great man power/resources etc. So all u have mentioned is not going to happen anytime soon…

        • Only that camera thing won’t happen LOL. Everything else can be done easily πŸ˜›

  • Viccky maurya

    I always hate curve designs and have been a huge fan of Rectangular designs (N9/L920/L1520) And also not a big fan of N5/6 design. i cant bear my frustation over Nokia 6 camera housing and overall design. Has Hmd forgot what Nokia is stand for? What Axel Meyer is doing in Nokia Technologies? He should join HMD.
    Really missing those colourful Nokia Lumia like phones….. πŸ™ Lumia designs were totally out of crowd and superb… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/06fbb6861c6984948277d21e7d24d4c134f812cc80905504c9214534abd72316.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ab2c32292b29dd4da179e595667f26711f260771810634a2ce678d5919e0de98.jpg

    • Such beautiful looking phones. πŸ™‚ Even apple praised the Lumia design πŸ™‚

    • Amazing design πŸ™‚ Juha is working on OZO camera, Axel is the Head of Design πŸ˜€

      • Viccky maurya

        Yess… I Know. In fact they are just wasting their talent and time in ‘Nokia Techs’.. πŸ™

        • No my friend. 😊 Nokia Technologies is much bigger than we think.😊 Ozo is very big. Its a revolution in VR 😊

          • Viccky maurya

            Who needs revolution in VR…? It is a revolution for far away time…. Masses are wanting revolution in mobile feild and that too from Nokia πŸ™‚

          • Mobile isn’t the future now. There is nothing left to be done with these mobile phones now except for flexible displays IMO. But companies need to invest in better technologies and Nokia is doing the same.
            Go to this link and plz wear HEADPHONES to experience:

  • Abhimanyu Chauhan

    It is true that Windows ruined nokia,but at that time nokia was at pinnacle.their hardware was superior and in house software integrationsolutions was great.but now I have a doubt.people will buy Nokia because they love nokia like me.I will buy Nokia 9 when it will be available. But I don’t have any hope about differentiation from sea of android phones.maybe it will take time.but I will wait for that day

    • The main problem with Windows is and was lack of apps. Some love the UI, others hate it, but all agree that Lumia devices wre great piece of hardware. Other problems with Windows at that time (and now) include lagging behind Android in terms of latest hardware support (when Android went 1080p, WP supported 720p; Android supported quad-core SOCs, WP only dual-core). With WP7.5 a big problem was preinstalled Skype – a lot of carriers refused to carry Lumia phones, because Skype (and similar apps) were destroying their business model back then. A one part of the blame takes the media, they historically hate Microsoft, but also for legit reasons. Nokia was mostly frustrated with WP’s development team. Nokia had to implement their own software solutions to feature-patch Microsoft’s OS that lacked some main features like Bluetooth file sharing, file manager or the ability to… wait for it… set a song for ringtone. Not to mention that Nokia revamped the way Windows process photos. On Windows 10 Mobile, the camera app is integrated Nokia Camera from 2012, with the Photos app being a toned down version of Nokia Storyteller. There is no point in going on further, I could write a book about it. Just one more thing, Nokia is also to blame because of bad R&D politics, egoistic executives, horrible component recycling and much more, but for the failure of Lumia, it’s mostly Microsoft’s fault πŸ™‚

  • mar

    xenon flash ?