HMD: Nokia 8 does not support Project Treble, because of “hardware limitations”

Project Treble is Google’s latest attempt to deal with the fragmentation on the Android market. Treble allows a simpler update process for Android Oreo devices, that will allow manufacturers to update more device and offer more support. We wrote more about Project Treble here.

Nokia 8, HMD’s flagship Android device, unfortunately cannot support Project Treble, because of hardware limitations. As Juho Sarvikas, HMD’s CPO describes on Twitter: To run Project Treble, you need to: 1) “ Adapt to the new Vendor Interface implementation” and 2)”Standalone Vendor partition to contain Vendor Implementation”. Nokia 8 lacks the standalone vendor partition for vendor implementations in ROM, that cannot be added via OTA updates, so I called it a “hardware limitation” in the title. Maybe that term isn’t 100% correct, but seems appropriate in this case.



For the end user, this doesn’t affect much. It is just that HMD’s engineers will have to work more to deliver new version of Android. Considering a 2-year promise of updates has been made, most customers, that care about updates, probably won’t care if HMD spends more hours than it could in updating the device. After all, updates will arrive for all Nokia smartphones.

The issue about Project Treble arose in Nokia Community support forums, where one of the moderators caused some confusion with her answers. The issue was later clarified, that lack of Treble on Nokia 8 is not Google’s, but HMD’s fault because a partition for vendor implementations wasn’t allocated in the first place. It’s a shame that HMD will have to spend more resources than necessary to update Nokia 8, because that “overtime” could’ve been spent on other modifications and improvements.

We also don’t know if other Nokia phones have the same partition problem as the Nokia 8, but considering that the 8 is a flagship, is more a yes than a no.


  • Scrumptious Centaur

    Until the bootloader can be unlocked Treble is essentially useless to the end-user. Still it’s dumb that the phone won’t get Treble since similarly specced devices have received it OTA, but alas – Mr. Sarvikas has spoken.

  • EricLovesSymbian

    EricLovesSymbian says:

    Uh! Here’s an idea… Don’t release anymore (new) phones that don’t have this partition built in. Simple. As of 12/5/2017, make sure Nokia ships all phones with Android Oreo 8.1 … This will take care of all the issues that will arise … And while you’re at it, perhaps someone should remind juho about the LG G6 and the Snapdragon 821 situation (that means horrible sales numbers compared to the Samsung phones with the 835 chipset).

    Release a product that is mature and well thought out from the beginning. Don’t allow the reviewers and media and haters say that the Nokia 9 is a great phone, but too bad it has last year’s technology, etc.

    I want Nokia to succeed and these are things they need to think about …